Any 2010 baseball previews yet?

trainrobber · Redshirt Freshman Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Posts: 2

Does Cumberland University have the pitching to win their conference and take them through the playoffs this year?

Ernest L Stockton · Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject:

trainrobber you seem to have some insight into one of the cumberland pitchers do you have any more information on any other guys?
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TSACBLUE · Freshman Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 64

The Transouth is beginning to look much different than past couple season. It has been dominated by Cumberland in the past. programs like Trevecca and Union are beginning to push past Cumberland as the conference powers. Cumberland has lost the swagger they used to own over teams, and really are not as talented as they used to be.
Union and Trevecca will fight for the conference championship. These two teams should be a notch above Cumberland and maybe Martin and Freed Hardman. Trevecca has the best returning starter. Union has the best staff. Both of these teams looks to have had the best recruiting in past couple of years. One of the teams I look forward to seeing improve is Bethel. They were really competitive at times last season.
I would look for Trevecca, Union, and Cumberland to be in the regionals. Matin and Freed will have a shot and maybe getting that 3rd spot.

Nationalchamps2004 · First Year Starter Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 452

And we now know the naia baseball season has begun. Why do i say this? Well TSACBLUE has made the first negative CU post and how they arent the cream of the crop...lost swager...etc...etc..etc. I guess if you do not get to the world series every single year it is considered as losing your "swagger". But this is just the way CU likes it, count them out and they will be in the running come opening round time.

P.S. Since your name indicts you umpire fyi we do not have regionals anymore and more than 3 transouth teams can make the postseason beyond conf. tournament

TSACBLUE · Freshman Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 64

Not all being negative towards Cumberland. They have a coaching legend, and the best facility around. They were dominating for about a 20 year period.
There are a couple of programs that have caught up, and last couple of years proved that. Trevecca and Union are just better on the field, but Cumberland will be in the p[ostseason mix.
I thought Lambuth would be better the past few seasons, but Union has taken that step. Trevecca is close to becoming the national player along with Lee from thus state. Nobody can argue that Lee has not become thew NAIA power in this area.

Nationalchamps2004 · First Year Starter Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 452

Well for some reason my earlier post didnt work. So ill make this shorter. Bottom line from 2000-2009 (cant go earlier than that bc Lee wouldnt apply) CU 4 World Series appearances with a title and runner up, Lee 4 apperances with 1 runner up. Point being i would say CU still has the edge in the state. With that being said Lee has made great strides and is doing a great job. As for the conf. thing until someone else can dominant the league like CU has and do something after conf. play and conf. tourny then I will take CU and its lost "swagger".

And you mention Trevecca and Union being better on the field??? How do we know have they all played already?

InspectorVol · Freshman Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 10

Hello guys. New to the forum.

I don't know the history of posters on these boards so I have no real basis for assessing intent but I didn't read that post as negative towards Cumberland. As a newbie I just read it as an opinion being fully aware that sometimes people do have axes to grind.

Anyway looking forward to reading things here to learn more about the conference teams.

I admit I am a newbie and probably would not be here if my son was not a freshman at Bethel. He is just a JV player and will likely not see any varsity time this year as far as that goes. Still I will enjoy keeping up with the varsity to see how they fair this season. I know they have not been on top so I am not here to proclaim their rise in the conference. Just giving a short little bio on myself.

Looking forward to the season, if the snow and rain ever stops.

Nationalchamps2004 · First Year Starter Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 452

Since you havent been here before let me clarify. Maybe a bad choice of wording to use "negative". What i am referring to is, it is the first "cumberland is down" or "lost their swagger" or "lost the dominance" post which occurs every year this time of the beginning of the season. Again i apologize. If anyone wants to say that then please check out their website at www.cumberland.edu go to the baseball page and check out their accomplishments and if you cant get to them i will be happy to post them.

transouth alum · Freshman Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 6 Location: SoFla

tsacblue i was wondering if your picks of union and trevecca as the cream of the crop in the conference are based off of anything that you actually know about each team or is it a trying to stir the pot situation.
Unless you have in depth knowledge of what trevecca brought in its hard for me to buy that they will be on top when they are coming off a year where they didnt make a regional. No doubt Dunn is the best pitcher in the conference and will get his wins but what else.
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Ernest L Stockton · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject:

I've been reading this board for 5 years now and every year its the same "cumberland is down " preseason talk. The only difference now is they have also lost their "swagger" I wonder what I'll be reading next year at this time after another conference championship, a regional appearence, and maybe a world series appearence...
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InspectorVol · Freshman Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 10

Gotcha. I have heard that Cumberland is a really good program. I don't know much about all the teams in the conference. It seems that Union is typically pretty good, and Freed has good years, guess you tell I am from the area, but as a whole I know little about the conference and how it typically plays out.

I won't post much but I will try to keep up with what is said here to learn a little about the schools and the regular posters.

I hope all teams have a good year and hope no players suffer any major injuries.

TSACBLUE · Freshman Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 64

am I not entitled to give some info and opinion on the TranSouth conference? I did not slight Cumberland! Did I not say they were the dominant program? And the past 2 season have been atypical of CU Baseball...Ask Woody, i dont think he was satisfied! My bet is he would very emphatically say he was not happy! Wasnt there some cleaning house this year?
I think TNU and Union are better based on what I know is coming back. Both have excellent pitching with true number 1 horses, and Union will have a good portion of the lineup returning.
I am sure Cumberland will have no shortage of talent either, thus my prediction they will get to the postseason as always.

just a has been · Freshman Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 45

Blue.......did i red the tsac preview wrong or does it state that TNU lost 13 players from 09? dunn i scoming back for sure but he is the only for sure they have.they are talking about a freshman getting playing time behind the plate. as a former catcher i know how important expierience is behind the dish. show me a team that has had a newbie behind the plate and ill show you a team that didnt go very far. cu has been down the last few years, had less swagger than usual. but that doesnt mean much when you win when it counts. tnu, union, and whoever else will no doubt give them a run for their money. but money talks and bulls**** walks. and my boy woody is money.
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TSACBLUE · Freshman Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 64

You Cumberland folks think your stuff dont stink. I even give the Bulldogs credit and you still whine.
Bottom line is Cumberland has been run over by the like of Lee, Trevecca, Union, and Union -Ky in the past few seasons.
I beleive the 2007 campaign was a two and done in Idaho? The fact is, I see all the teams, which is more than some of you can say, and the truth is these Dawgs need to stay on the porch!
2010 TSAC predictions:
1 - Union: most talented team period and hungry for a title
2 - Trevecca: Trevecca will still get it "DUNN"
3 - Cumberland: Dawgs losing their bite
4 - Martin Methodist: dangerous....
5 - FHU: just dont see it this year. Too much change
6- Lyon: scrappy at least
7 - Bethel: could fall anywhere from 4-7...
8- Mid Continent: They did beat CU once...

Nationalchamps2004 · First Year Starter Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 452

In reference to TSACBLUE's previous post:

"CU has been run over the likes of Lee, Trevecca, Union, and Union KY"

-Lee and CU havent been regional foes since 2004 thus no postseason meetings, hard to get run over when you dont play each other
Lee- 4 WS appreances CU-10

-Trevecca and CU have had plenty of battles in conference and former regional play with Trevecca not showing up come regional time. Run over? Hardly
Trevecca- 0 WS apperances CU-10

Union Tenn. hate to waste my typing but atleast they made the opening round tourny last season something even Trevecca couldnt acomplish with DUNN. Run over?
Union Tenn.- O WS appearances CU-10

Union KY and CU are not common regional opponents but have met in two super regional championships with both winning 1. If a split is run over then i guess your right.
Union KY-1 WS apperances CU-10

As for your 2007 campaign shot (which makes no sense in your post and was completley random) atleast they had an opportunity more than all the others you mentioned outside of Lee had.

So while the dawgs are on the porch and losing their bite, chew on this:

NAIA World Series Appearances: 10
1988, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
NAIA National Championship: 2004
NAIA National Runner-Up: 1995, 2006

NAIA South Central Super Regional Championships: 4
2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
NAIA Regional/District Championships: 10
1988, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007

Conference Championships: 21
1986, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008
NAIA All-Americans: 50

Players Who Have Signed Professional Baseball Contracts: 71

TSACBLUE · Freshman Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 64

Ok so we are talking tradition? i thought this was a 2010 TSAC preview thread...
Union does have a WS appearance: 1983. And you can probably add one in 2010 if they play up to their potential.

Nationalchamps2004 · First Year Starter Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 452

Just stating facts, and yes "IF" anyone plays to their potential they can be good and have a chance to go deep in post season. And since you brought it up if we are talking transouth preview then i guess your Lee and Union KY refrences dont apply? As well you refrenced the 2007 WS apperance which i dont believe applies to the 2010 tsac preview so i figured since we are off topic i should relay all the facts.

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InspectorVol · Freshman Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 10

Oh my. That is not good. Seems like that could open a great big can of worms.

DawgsGetItDone · Freshman Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 40

I would like to compare CU Baseball, to the University of Kentucky Basketball. People are always going to hate because of the tradition. Whenever someone looks at Cumberland on there schedule, that automatically becomes there Superbowl, much like whenever teams see UK on there schedule. Cumberland always has the bullseye on there chest. I dont think Coach Hunt would have it any other way. I think a player being overlooked, is Troy Frazier. Im pretty sure he started out at Western Kentucky, and started a freshman; then he transferred to UK and I know started and hit clean up. I think he ended up losing his starting position and now transferred to CU. Im sure he will love hitting at Ernest L. Stockton. Also I notice Derrick Harwood on the roster, can anyone give me a outlook on how he is doing. I know Kikla is back, and he played shortstop. How is the lineup looking? Thanks in advance. Go Bulldogs!!

Lumberland04 · Freshman Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 29

Anyone else find it funny that the umpire just got called out on strikes?? hahahaha..

aNd U TSACblue.. wheres your worthless response??

CU Guy · First Year Starter Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 464

Most teams have a few games under there belts at this point. Anybody have any updates on how your favorite team looks? Cumberland is off to a 4-1 start which is kinda disappointing since they should easily be 5-0. Pitching has looked good so far. Some decent hitting, but definitely room for improvement.

CU Guy · First Year Starter Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 464

I meant their belts. I can't stand typos and I didn't see an edit button. Sorry.